In this episode I talk with author and Under the Gum Tree contributor Carol Marsh. Carol’s essay, “Pictures in Leaves,” won the 2016 New Millennium Writings Nonfiction Prize. Her essay “Highest and Best” received an honorable mention in Under the Gum Tree’s inaugural essay contest and appears in the January 2017 issue of the magazine. It is an excerpt from her memoir *Nowhere Else I Want to Be.* Additional excerpts of her book have appeared in Soundings Review, bioStories, and Jenny magazine.



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In this episode, we talk about:

  • Processing grief and experience through writing creative nonfiction
  • Why Carol started Miriam’s House, a nonprofit shelter for women in Washington, D.C. living with aids
  • How writing played a role in maintaining emotional and spiritual health during her time at Miriam’s House
  • The importance of self-care when having others to take care and creating physical and emotional boundaries
  • Why structure is a bitch and how to create it a memoir with multiple storylines
  • Carol’s memoir Nowhere Else I Want to Be
  • The online school for people in public service that Carol started, Forum for Growth in Service
  • Visit Carol online at

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